The democrats should now work on gutting their party and realigning their values with those of the American people. But I predict they won’t. They’ll obsess over Trump for another four years with fake “resistance” talk and go nowhere.
I think it depends on how thoroughly the Leninist/Maoist faction has captured the party apparatus. If they double down, the Red Guard cosplayers are on top. If they pay lip service to reform but no more, the disciplined Leninist/Maoists are on top. If they under take genuine reform, sanity (thanks be to G_d) has prevailed.
Yay!!!! I still don’t understand why we are not openly discussing the Biden admin’s role in covid “mistakes”, including censorship and collusion w tech, MSM mocking Trump for stating correct mortality stats, the mandates and discrimination, Florida outcomes vs elsewhere, etc. This is where the Dems lost me forever.
I personally do care deeply about womens right to choose! But what is that choice when experimental products are required to maintain basic rights as a citizen??!!! Mandates were NOT choice.
I just don’t understand why this is not open discussion. People’s belief in the system depends on admission of these crimes. Without that, the whole system is an evil fraud.
I told my wife after the vote that maybe now we'd see less "Are you a non-white hispanic lesbian?" On employment forms. Those tribal divisions were only of interest to Democrats, so they could segment the tribes more precisely and dole out awards based on grievance status. Out of power and with nothing to show for all the identitarian nonsense, there is at least a little hope that they'll knock it off with that shit so we can just live. But not too much hope. The big problem here is that Dems are always convinced they are right; their only explanatory variable is that everyone else is sexist and racist.
Oddly, the thought that is popping up most in my brain is "Thank God, no more Sam Brintons."
No more boob flashing on the White House lawn!
I am also happy there will likely be no more pallets of cash to people that want the US of A incinerated, fewer illegals, and maybe Springfield and East Palastine will finally catch a break. But really, uppermost, it's that the 'garbage people' will be far less likely to shove garbage at the nation.
But that's what garbage men do, yeah? They take out the trash.
I will add that Democrats are also misogynists. This fight to allow males in female sports, private spaces, prisons, etc., tells me all I need to know.
The Labour Party in the U.K. is in the same head space as the democrats. From the US it may look like we had an appetite for socialism. The reality is the Tories lost, Labour didn’t win and, with a party already divided, they didn’t have any focus or appetite for the fight. They threw the towel in. Farage and reform entered the fray too late to make any meaningful opposition and the result was a landslide on 32 percent of the eligible vote for Labour. We now have an unpopular, tyrannical, politically naive party in charge. I hope the next five years of them will do for us what four years of the Democrats did for the US, and put the electorate off them for good.
If the Democrats were to learn the right lessons from Harris' loss, it could be the best possible outcome for their political brand. Unfortunately, they learned all the wrong lessons in 2016 and applied them in 2024. And from what I've been hearing so far, at least from the punditry, they indeed learned all the wrong lessons again.
Adam, this is an excellent interpretation of what happened yesterday. There are so many gems here it was hard to pick one to comment on, but I really liked these examples:
"I didn't walk away as much as they stepped away from me in their messaging and advocacy."
"It's one thing if you believe she's the best person for the job, it's another to say it doesn't matter."
"...but this win for Trump feels especially different. This resembles a political reckoning that is about to occur for the party that has lost its way years ago."
"I believe this country is a better country when it has two sane political parties that are trying to attract every American's vote and the Democrats had purposefully chosen to flatter niche audiences, hyper-focusing on identity over substance and reality."
Lots of wisdom in those four short examples. Many former democrats I know, smart and thoughtful people, have said the same thing about the Dem party. You actually paraphrase Ronald Reagan from decades ago when he said that he didn't leave the Democrat Party, it left him. My wife, a former Dem, raised as one whose Dad was a Democrat County Party Chairman in her home state, feels the same way. Its sad that what was once the party of the working man seems to not want to listen to the voices of its core constituencies, the working man. Its become a party of elitists and special interests for elitists and special interests. The best example of that is the fact that their nominee wasn't elected, she was selected by the party elites. Biden likely wouldn't have won either, but at least he was the choice of the members of the party. That sounds like the Soviet Communist Party or the CCP more than it sounds like the Democrat Party I grew up around.
I agree that the US is a more healthy country if it's got political parties who compete for the votes of citizens. The presumption there is that they will listen to what the citizens want, which always works well in a nation that claims that it's government is of, by, and for the people. This notion goes hand in hand with criticism of a party that wanted you to support Harris not because she's the best person who competed for the job, but because she was selected by the party elites and whether she is best or not doesn't matter. You can't have government of, by and for the people with that kind of selection process. It simply doesn't work.
I am skeptical but I do hope this election is different and it will represent a reckoning for the Dems. Unfortunately Donald Trump has driven the Republican Party firmly on the ground previously occupied by the Democrats and I don't think that the GOP, which is now the party of the MAGA movement, will give up that ground without a fight. If the GOP fights hard over the next two years, before midterms, using it's united government to actually accomplish some of the things it has promised for regular people, they will be difficult to dislodge as the real party of the people. If that all works out Donald Trump will go down not only as a great President and a great leader, but as one of the most consequential political leaders in American history. He will have literally re-written the book on American politics, no small achievement.
Thank you again for your role in this election. You have been incredibly insightful and, in my view, must reading throughout this long election season. Well done.
This is certainly true--both I'm glad of it. I live in Washington, however, where the Democrats ran the table and destroyed any conservative vestiges of common sense left. Bob Ferguson, the hapless and silly attorney general who oversaw the lowest ranking of police to citizens in the U.S., who oversaw CHAZ (the takeover of city blocks of capitol hill by a bunch of commies), who oversaw legalizing drugs and creating a homeless nightmare, was overwhelmingly voted in as governor. So, it's time to rethink where I live---and where I'll go.
One of the best analysis I’ve read. I agree and hope that it’s a lesson not just for the democrats, but for the west. When you stop listening to the people, when you dismiss their concerns, silence them and label them bigots or uneducated then this is the result. There needs to be some serious retrospection & inner work to re-centre the dem party.
The democrats should now work on gutting their party and realigning their values with those of the American people. But I predict they won’t. They’ll obsess over Trump for another four years with fake “resistance” talk and go nowhere.
I have an ounce of hope lol
I think it depends on how thoroughly the Leninist/Maoist faction has captured the party apparatus. If they double down, the Red Guard cosplayers are on top. If they pay lip service to reform but no more, the disciplined Leninist/Maoists are on top. If they under take genuine reform, sanity (thanks be to G_d) has prevailed.
Yay!!!! I still don’t understand why we are not openly discussing the Biden admin’s role in covid “mistakes”, including censorship and collusion w tech, MSM mocking Trump for stating correct mortality stats, the mandates and discrimination, Florida outcomes vs elsewhere, etc. This is where the Dems lost me forever.
I personally do care deeply about womens right to choose! But what is that choice when experimental products are required to maintain basic rights as a citizen??!!! Mandates were NOT choice.
I just don’t understand why this is not open discussion. People’s belief in the system depends on admission of these crimes. Without that, the whole system is an evil fraud.
I told my wife after the vote that maybe now we'd see less "Are you a non-white hispanic lesbian?" On employment forms. Those tribal divisions were only of interest to Democrats, so they could segment the tribes more precisely and dole out awards based on grievance status. Out of power and with nothing to show for all the identitarian nonsense, there is at least a little hope that they'll knock it off with that shit so we can just live. But not too much hope. The big problem here is that Dems are always convinced they are right; their only explanatory variable is that everyone else is sexist and racist.
Oddly, the thought that is popping up most in my brain is "Thank God, no more Sam Brintons."
No more boob flashing on the White House lawn!
I am also happy there will likely be no more pallets of cash to people that want the US of A incinerated, fewer illegals, and maybe Springfield and East Palastine will finally catch a break. But really, uppermost, it's that the 'garbage people' will be far less likely to shove garbage at the nation.
But that's what garbage men do, yeah? They take out the trash.
TIME TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH!!!
No more Sam Brintons LOL
As a wise man once said, “It’s morning again in America.”
I will add that Democrats are also misogynists. This fight to allow males in female sports, private spaces, prisons, etc., tells me all I need to know.
Yes, your:"It's an elitist, condescending, misandrist party filled with ideologues who don't care about the working class."!!!
???.
The Labour Party in the U.K. is in the same head space as the democrats. From the US it may look like we had an appetite for socialism. The reality is the Tories lost, Labour didn’t win and, with a party already divided, they didn’t have any focus or appetite for the fight. They threw the towel in. Farage and reform entered the fray too late to make any meaningful opposition and the result was a landslide on 32 percent of the eligible vote for Labour. We now have an unpopular, tyrannical, politically naive party in charge. I hope the next five years of them will do for us what four years of the Democrats did for the US, and put the electorate off them for good.
I'm equally worried for the state of the UK.
I’m sure we’ll work it out. You did.
Well said!
If the Democrats were to learn the right lessons from Harris' loss, it could be the best possible outcome for their political brand. Unfortunately, they learned all the wrong lessons in 2016 and applied them in 2024. And from what I've been hearing so far, at least from the punditry, they indeed learned all the wrong lessons again.
*Heavy sigh*
Great comments, as always.
Adam, this is an excellent interpretation of what happened yesterday. There are so many gems here it was hard to pick one to comment on, but I really liked these examples:
"I didn't walk away as much as they stepped away from me in their messaging and advocacy."
"It's one thing if you believe she's the best person for the job, it's another to say it doesn't matter."
"...but this win for Trump feels especially different. This resembles a political reckoning that is about to occur for the party that has lost its way years ago."
"I believe this country is a better country when it has two sane political parties that are trying to attract every American's vote and the Democrats had purposefully chosen to flatter niche audiences, hyper-focusing on identity over substance and reality."
Lots of wisdom in those four short examples. Many former democrats I know, smart and thoughtful people, have said the same thing about the Dem party. You actually paraphrase Ronald Reagan from decades ago when he said that he didn't leave the Democrat Party, it left him. My wife, a former Dem, raised as one whose Dad was a Democrat County Party Chairman in her home state, feels the same way. Its sad that what was once the party of the working man seems to not want to listen to the voices of its core constituencies, the working man. Its become a party of elitists and special interests for elitists and special interests. The best example of that is the fact that their nominee wasn't elected, she was selected by the party elites. Biden likely wouldn't have won either, but at least he was the choice of the members of the party. That sounds like the Soviet Communist Party or the CCP more than it sounds like the Democrat Party I grew up around.
I agree that the US is a more healthy country if it's got political parties who compete for the votes of citizens. The presumption there is that they will listen to what the citizens want, which always works well in a nation that claims that it's government is of, by, and for the people. This notion goes hand in hand with criticism of a party that wanted you to support Harris not because she's the best person who competed for the job, but because she was selected by the party elites and whether she is best or not doesn't matter. You can't have government of, by and for the people with that kind of selection process. It simply doesn't work.
I am skeptical but I do hope this election is different and it will represent a reckoning for the Dems. Unfortunately Donald Trump has driven the Republican Party firmly on the ground previously occupied by the Democrats and I don't think that the GOP, which is now the party of the MAGA movement, will give up that ground without a fight. If the GOP fights hard over the next two years, before midterms, using it's united government to actually accomplish some of the things it has promised for regular people, they will be difficult to dislodge as the real party of the people. If that all works out Donald Trump will go down not only as a great President and a great leader, but as one of the most consequential political leaders in American history. He will have literally re-written the book on American politics, no small achievement.
Thank you again for your role in this election. You have been incredibly insightful and, in my view, must reading throughout this long election season. Well done.
Wow. This analysis really resounds with me. Thank you for summing up EVERYTHING that influenced my vote.
My pleasure Michael. God bless you.
Fabulous, sir! Thank you.
My pleasure
This is certainly true--both I'm glad of it. I live in Washington, however, where the Democrats ran the table and destroyed any conservative vestiges of common sense left. Bob Ferguson, the hapless and silly attorney general who oversaw the lowest ranking of police to citizens in the U.S., who oversaw CHAZ (the takeover of city blocks of capitol hill by a bunch of commies), who oversaw legalizing drugs and creating a homeless nightmare, was overwhelmingly voted in as governor. So, it's time to rethink where I live---and where I'll go.
One of the best analysis I’ve read. I agree and hope that it’s a lesson not just for the democrats, but for the west. When you stop listening to the people, when you dismiss their concerns, silence them and label them bigots or uneducated then this is the result. There needs to be some serious retrospection & inner work to re-centre the dem party.